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I was seated between Dave and Gerry who I believe were both speaking about Madeleine. I don’t remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario.
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I remember Dave telling Gerry something like “she”, referring to Madeleine, “would do this”. When he mentioned “this”, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, while with the other hand he made a circle around his nipple, in a circulatory movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing. I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around as if saying “did anyone else hear this, or was it just me”.
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Rock the night the very best of europe rar. There was a nervous silence registered in all the conversations and afterwards, everyone began talking again. 'Kate phoned me, errm about an hour after Gerry and asked me to get in touch with, errm Paul Seddon, who is the priest, Father Seddon, who married her, who baptised Madeleine, errm and I didn't have his mobile phone so I rang a friend of Kate's and got got him and he rang Kate right away and I think as soon as this happened, as soon as Kate realised what had happened, it was as if, errm. She started to ask God right away to give her Madeleine. Errm because Kate and Gerry were not the most devout family.'